At minute 44 Skye reads from James Carroll’s piece  and adds his own comments:

Rather than saying like is predecessors ‘here’s what we’re for, here’s what we’re against…’ his posture is one of ‘come and see, come and engage God and we’ll deal with those other issues down the road’ and I think that shift in posture from a defensive, ‘who’s in and who’s out’ to a welcoming ‘come and see’ posture has been incredibly well received by the world.

Phil adds that simply copying him won’t be effective.

Skye adds that evangelical leaders tend to get media attention when they’re outrageous. The pope gets attention because he’s the pope.

Phil adds that communities of believers living that that might get more attention.

Phil Vischer also notes that Phil Robertson could learn something from the Pope.