- 14: is meaning found or made?
- 21: Vervaeke relations are real, not just matter
- 25 Jung and Nietzsche
- 29 Vervaeke on Nietzsche, Plato and the Axial Age
- 38 JBP on Nietzsche and Jung. Nietzsche criticizing Christianity for not taking suffering and evil seriously in the physical world and Jung to alchemy
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1:31 two types of rationality, scientific versus logistic