Twitter Updates for 2009-05-25

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  • Did they find the altar from Joshua 8 on Mt. Ebal? Interesting little read http://bit.ly/DxHvy #
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Twitter Updates for 2009-05-21

  • RT @ivpacademic: Check out the latest from Mark Noll: The New Shape of World Christianity http://tr.im/lTHb #
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Some ramblings on the science vs. creation narrative debate

I think it’s helpful to ask where the heat comes from in this conflict.

In my opinion Genesis 1-3 is a polemical piece standing against the competing creation myths vying for the hearts and minds of the Hebrew people. It was essential that they divorce themselves from the gods of Egypt, Canaan and Mesopotamia and their supporting mythic narratives in order to rightly understand the creator God, what we were made to be and how we were made to relate to that God and to the creation. How they understood their origins would greatly impact the trajectory of their lives with respect to this God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and how they would live out this relationship in the world created by this narrative.

The polemical nature of the Biblical creation story continues today to stand against competing creation myths. I think it is worth a moment to ask how and in what way contemporary scientific assumptions, conclusions and connected models do and don’t compete against the Biblical narrative. Is what science has postulated about the origins of the universe essentially similar to the Egyptian, Canaanite and Mesopotamian myths? I think we have to say, “yes and no”.

The scientific community generates working hypotheses about origins which are connected with a myriad of models and projects in use to pursue their work. It is important to be a bit precise as to what the scientific project is and the way that is it used towards various ends.

The primary purpose of ancient creation accounts was to local the critical actors of their times (kings, men, women, the gods, etc.) and answer the questions “who are we? Who governs this world? Where do we fit into this world? How are we to make our way in this world? What is this world about?”

I watch a lot of science educational TV and I noted that nearly every program opens with these big sweeping questions as a sort of a hook to get your interest and pull you in. Is this hook, however, really central to the scientific project? I don’t think so. Science develops models and hypotheses in order to answer the question “what is” and “how does it work”. Science is completely unable to answer the questions “what does it mean?” It seems to me that the meaning questions are the really interesting ones and that many scientists just can’t help but wander into someone else’s domain and take a stab at things. That’s fine. One thing you get used to as a pastor is that everyone is always trying to do your job for themselves. I suppose we should be flattered.

Back to the heat generated by the debate. It is fully native for preachers and religious people to zealously defend their polemical narratives. They are making a variety of assertions that involve history, meaning, but most of all they are using these texts for what they were designed to do, to orient people in terms of where they fit into the scheme of the cosmos, who humanity is and how one lives out these realities in faithfulness to their creator. We should expect this group to be hot, jealous of what they possess, and motivated to defend it.

The more curious source of heat comes from the scientific community. What I hear from them, however, are two distinct motivations for passion, and I would argue that one is right and the other alien to the scientific agenda.

Those scientists who are using their systems and structures as a polemic against ancient origins narratives should reconsider their field of inquiry. Do the hypotheses and working models of which they are experts really answer the questions of whether all this stuff is infused with meaning and purpose, of where humanity fits into the grand scheme of things in terms of his purpose and what it means to live faithfully and meaningfully within this context? It would seem to me that it cannot. This group instead perhaps has taken science and turned it into a religion of their own and is pushing their own religious agenda. We have freedom of religion in this country and they are well within their rights to do so, but they should also admit that they are then playing a different game. Questions of meaning, ought, responsibility and faithfulness to a reality beyond the physical cannot be addressed by the physical sciences.

From what I hear from others in this debate, often from Christian scientists is a different message. What I hear them warning pastors like myself to be careful about wandering into their fields of expertise. I am not one to say that there is a big bright line between Biblical creation narratives and hypotheses and conclusions drawn from contemporary science. I believe the Biblical record bases meaning in history, within the literary expressions it employs, and so there will be a lot of discussion and likely unresolved conflicts between some of what the scientific community is doing and what the pastors are doing with the Bible. The Belgic confession says we’ve got two books and in today’s world of specialization pastors work hard to learn one and science types work hard to learn another and our notes don’t always compare well. This shouldn’t surprise us because often our notes within our own professional communities don’t always compare well. There will be problems. What I hear Christians scientists saying, however, is to be careful in educating the young regarding these issues. Beware of attempts to stack the deck too early in these conflicts which too often set up young people for crises of faith in one sphere or the other. If you really pound the “all-or-nothing” pulpit, and you get that message across, what if that young person one day has serious doubts that the earth’s age can’t be arrived at by summing up the genealogies of the patriarchs and that seeing the light from stars shining millions of light years away might just mean that things are a bit older and more complex than the Genesis genealogies.

Since I have homeschooled my kids, I have had to think about this a bit. What I have decided to do is to simply allow the two books to grow in front of my children as they are and trust that as they grow when the crises arise between these two communities interpreting the two books that they will begin that process of working two ends that don’t quite fit together as they come across them. I read them the Bible stories as is. I don’t try to alter them or tailor them according to questions that arise from the scientific sector. I also expose them to science type stuff that talks about long periods of time and processes that result in the world as we see it today. I don’t try to wrap up these contractions prior to finding them on their own. Let them grow together and work on the little skirmishes with humility as they arise, being open to things we know and things we don’t know.

One thing that I think is important to think about is what they need to know when they need to know it. What they learn from the Bible is in my opinion far more important for their lives and their development than what they will learn from science. Why is that? How many people really have a deep and in depth knowledge of the scientific basis for the conclusions they reach regarding origins? People know Christianity because Christians belief that the story they tell is of utmost importance for everyone’s life, yet because of historical processes not everyone has had an opportunity to hear about it. How much more true is this not of science? The areas that the Biblical creation narratives push are in fact universally applicable and helpful. Who made the world? What is he like? Can he be trusted? Where do I fit in? Science can’t answer any of these questions.

If people will go into the sciences they will have to learn the language and skills of this communal project. Just like anyone desiring to be in an orchestra will need to learn the skills, the essential repertoire, and the ways of the violin in order to participate, so also those heading in the field of science will have to master what they need to participate in this community. Science, however, is a subset of the larger human project and its body of information is a specialized one. All peoples need to learn who they are and how they relate to the broader world.  pvk

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"what does it matter as long as we're nice to each other now"

A little rant from a CRC-Voices post I made on the significance of the resurrection and ascension.

I’m listening to some of the speeches given at a Calvin Seminar on the Ascension. http://www.calvin.edu/worship/idis/theology/ascension_shout.php

You’re approach pretty much cuts us off from the resurrection and the ascension. Imagine someone would say this:

I’m going to really treat my neighbor well until 2012 when I will break into his house, murder him in his sleep, bury his body in the back yard and steal his stuff.

If you look at my treatment of my neighbor before 2012 you’d say “Paul is a good neighbor” That judgment is determined by the calendar. After 2012 you’d say “Paul is a homicidal monster!” Which one is Paul really? The “just as long as he treats people well NOW” can’t tell the whole story.

Two men work in a sweat shop stitching together cheap clothing. One of them believes that after 20 years of this his eyes will be shot, his body broken, and his son will be chained to the old sewing machine he’s wasting his life away on. The second one believes that in fact 20 years from then a new regime will take control of his country, the owners of the factory will be called to account for their poor treatment and this sweat shop worker will receive a comfortable settlement check that will allow him to retire nicely and take care of his family. Is it true that the future doesn’t matter? One’s perspective on the future in fact controls the meaning of the present.

I heard a bit of a radio report today about a guy who was a death-ologist or something. He died and one of the recordings simply tells people “when I’m dead I’m dead and all that lives on of me are my DNA in my kids, the memories of me that my loved ones have, and whatever books I wrote and the reputation I developed.

That’s a very Greek perspective on a life. How would that perspective in fact shape how he lived while he was alive? I assume he would prioritize those things that in fact in his opinion post date his physical life in our midst. What does his perspective say about the billions of lives lived, people loved, who never wrote a book, never had a biological child, never accomplished anything that this world considered to be noteworthy, etc. It means their lives, according to this perspective have no meaning. Future determines meaning.

Let’s imagine the secular materialists are all right and at some point human life simply ends on this planet. Maybe we’ve wrecked the world. Maybe we’ve blown ourselves up. Maybe we were just really nice to each other but the sun ran out of fuel, and other planets are just too far away and the world just died in the cold. If someone would be around to say of us “we were all just really nice to each other” it would seem a weak testimony given to humanity’s existence, but then again it doesn’t matter because there would no longer be anyone to care. Do we look back at the dinosaurs and judge them on how nice they were to each other?

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How the egalitarian position opens up complementary beauty

Even though I don’t believe in restricting women from serving in church office, I think the project of exploring the complementarian position looks promising. It seems to me that the egalitarian position has the liabilities of a contemporary cultural/political ideology enforcing it as well as a comparatively flat perspective in gender differences. I think the conflict over women serving in church office temporarily retarded the exploration of positive gender differences but over the longer term the inclusion of women serving in office has increased the data regarding what they bring to the table. In a funny way the tensions produced by the conflict and the opportunities brought by victory of the egalitarian position (in the CRC and other places) have given us a richer perspective on the base assumption of the complementarian position. In other words, the more we go into the egalitarian position the more vivid some of the beauty of the complementarian position becomes. Sometimes you don’t get to really explore the difference between apples and oranges until you’ve got them both on the same table.

Part of what attracts me to the exploration of the complementarian position is the movement of mutual voluntary submission and the basic gospel resonance which it evokes. If the relational polarity of the age to come, the relational polarity of the life within the Trinity is in fact sacrificial self-donation for the benefit of the other making the complementarian dance looks potentially rich and lovely. The dance is simply richer when the partners are complementary rather than mirror images of each other. A lot of the music surrounding the egalitarian sound to me to be more grabby, demanding and selfish. It’s about me first, my needs, my rights, my exaltation. This too often evokes the relational polarity of the age of decay: “my needs at your expense”.

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Kenneth Bailey on "do not bring us to the time of trial"

When travelers take long camel trips into the deserts of the Middle East, they must have a guide. The guide knows how to reach the destination. Without that information the traveling party will die. From experience I know that selecting the right guide must be done with great care. The party must trust the guide and have full confidence that he knows exactly where he is going and will not play Russian roulette with their lives. They must feel that the guide is capable of coping with any emergency that might arise on the journey.

Some years ago, in Egypt, my friends and I made a number of extended trips into the Sahara to visit a famous well. For that particular journey we always selected “Uncle Zaki” as our guide. He was a self-confident, humble man with enormous personal dignity. He never walked in the desert but flowed over sand and rock like a ship moving gently through calm seas. His gait was akin to a slow run and was beautiful to observe. As we would leave the village on the edge of the Nile and head out into the almost trackless Sahara, each of us in turn felt the inner pressure to say, “Uncle Zaki, don’t get us lost!” What we meant by that statement was, “We don’t know the way to where we are going, and if you get us lost we will all die. We have placed our total trust in your leadership.”

We were not saying to Uncle Zaki, “We don’t think we can trust you, and are nervous lest you get us lost. Please don’t do so.” If that had been our view we would never have followed him out of the village. The phrase in the Lord’s Prayer expresses the confidence of an earthly pilgrim traveling with a divine guide. The journey requires the pilgrims to affirm daily, “Lord, we trust you to guide us, because you alone know the way that we must go.” This affirmation of the trusting traveler reflects the confidence of the community that prays this prayer.

Kenneth Bailey Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes p. 128, 129

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