Two Competing Ideals

I appreciated Paul’s writeup of the contra overtures. https://www.christiancourier.ca/five-major-concerns/

I can very much understand the angst and even panic among many who reasonably anticipate the complete passage of the HSR as hurtful and a slamming of the door on many who are right now sort of in the shadows of the church. For many passage of the report and especially an explicit statement of opposing SSM to be “confessional” and in CRC terminology therefore “essential” for office bearing to be the final straw in relationship with the CRC. I can see the faces and I could name the names at least of this I know who would feel this way.

I also understand the conservatives who quite reasonably say “can we possibly simply ‘agree to disagree’ on this and honestly call such a thing ‘unity’?”

I have, for a long time, felt that what we are seeing are two quite separate mental conceptualizations of Christianity and ideals that answer the question “what the gospel is for”.

One side I think imagines a counter-cultural cruciform witness of mortification and sacrifice in gratitude for that strange substitutionary sacrifice outside of Jerusalem some 2000 years ago.

The other I think imagines something like an ongoing successive liberation from a litany of sinful oppressive practices perpetrated against the weak, the poor, the oppressed and the marginalized of history by the strong. Christians in their churches are supposed to bear witness to that liberation in their churches and be some sort of a vanguard for that movement through time expressing this liberation in word and deed.

Now most would agree that pew sitters fall short of these ideals but the institution is supposed to invite them to participate in these journeys.

In the first case the ideal is to be set forward and the church should remind the faithful of the disciplined cruciform journey they wish to pursue.

In the second case the church announces this liberation and provides a platform from which to speak to a world still mired in oppression and subjugation.

Both visions would yield different applications when it comes to something like human sexuality. While there might be some overlapping elements for the most part the first group would emphasize self-denial for the Christian life. The ideal would surely be the family as “little church” of Protestantism as the alternative to the monastic movement.

In the second case application would be affirming sexual fulfilment in as broad a field as possible for those who find themselves excluded from the pleasure the body is surely capable of and that a loving God would wish for us. I don’t mean to imply a simplistic hedonism here. Most of us know that hedonisms usually don’t pan out, but the goal of fulfilment really rests at the center of the vision.

Now in most cases people would not live ideal lives, but ideals matter because they orient people and institutions in terms of the norms they see as productive towards reaching those ideals.

I’m not trying to set up a straw man for either group and there are myriads of nuances among people in terms of their conceptualizations. Part of the way I created these conceptualizations is with an eye towards the predominant split in American Christianity for the last 175 years, roughly since the end of the American Civil War. In many ways we are watching the ongoing war between a pre-millennial vision and a post-millennial vision. The CRC’s Amillennial posture really doesn’t matter in this dispute besides sort of making us mushy in the middle.

It is very difficult to imagine a productive and robust ecclesiastical body being able to continue to transcend a difference of ideals as dramatic as these. I would love to see us continue to work on articulating and embodying an ideal that would be sufficiently clear and compelling as to afford us a more productive navigating of these issues and more.

In any case it seems clear to many in the CRC that the mushy middle is no longer where they can be. I find it discouraging that we fight over an issue like this without really being able to ask the far deeper questions that might give meaningful guidance. Unfortunately we’re likely going to be left with one side yelling “you don’t submit to the authority of Scripture” towards one side and on the other “you don’t have love in your hearts towards those who have suffered thousands of years of oppression and marginalization!”

Such sloganeering produces nothing. I want to produce something so I’ll continue to try. pvk

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Pageau conducting a contemporary Reformation of Orthodoxy

Excellent comment

Mitchell Rutherford
12 hours ago
Fascinating comments. I have thought a lot about these same issues and the ironies that post-modern society presents the various facets of the church. You, Pageau, Beth More and whoever, essentially disseminate ideas through a medium of competition-based information platforms. The pastor/preacher/laymen that resonates most of all with the spirit of the age receives the views and the influence at the expense of everyone else, whether they are ordained by a denominational hierarchy or not. It is essentially capitalist preaching and most people engage more with the ideas of internet theologians than they do with their local minister. Regarding, the sermon and the homily. Most ecclesiologists agree that the homily played a massively important part in the early church even well up into the late classical, early medieval period. Liturgy is something which developed and changed a lot until it was made a concrete part of the different medieval traditions by various theologians and synods. This is because as the church become civilization itself and the world became a part of the church, the need to disseminate the Christian worldview became less and less important. The church became an unavoidable part of the world. Overtime, however, the people came to awareness and a longing to understand the meaning behind the liturgy and wanted once more to reconsolidate to the precepts of the Christian worldview. This is what the protestant reformation essentially is and in some ways someone like Pageau, is a reformer of Orthodox church. He is seeking to communicate ideas in the Eastern church that have been long forgotten with his own unique take and modern application. This is not dissimilar way to how Calvin or Luther recommunicated ancient teachers such as Augustine and of course. These ideas never escape the spirit of the times and they often take one part of the immensely complicated and rich Christian worldview. Pageau focuses on symbolism, Evangelicals focus on salvation, others focus on righteous living etc. – all of these are indispensable parts of Christianity and none of them should be a framework that we rely on solely. You mentioned how people attending an Orthodox service, would not hear the teachings of Pageau or may not find the Eastern Fathers to teach in a way that Pageau teaches. Pageau takes his approach from middle byzantine Fathers such as Maximus the Confessor and from the Cappadocians fathers. Nonetheless, if one reads Basil’s (a Cappadocian) homilies for the layman on Genesis 1, it will be something more akin to a Ken Ham lecture. Where Basil the Great throws out most of the allegorical method to defend a day by day view of Creation and contend with the alternative Greek theories that may contradict the literal Genesis account – an approach that would excite a much maligned young earth creationist. An evangelical would be surprised to find how comfortable they are with the style of John Chrysostom’s preaching, a fire and brimstone style that focus’ on self-improvement, practical application to scripture and dogmatic theology. A protestant will be uncomfortable with some fathers emphasize on will, self-improvement and a synergist approach to faith and works. Of course, allegory, historicity, dogmatism, Christian virtue are all in scripture and were all apart of the ancient church, each modern tradition has just run wild with a different approach, sometimes at the expense of another. It is peculiar how almost every theology (and heresy) had been developed by about the 4th century and the history of the church has just been a re-emergence of different approaches from this early period, tailored to our own day. Truly, there is nothing new under the sun.

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