Why mainline churches are in decline

This is from Tim Keller

By the way, mainline churches, for example, just don’t start new churches. And part of the problem — Lyle Schaller, who was kind of a church consultant pundit, said years ago because mainline churches flooded the country, so that almost every square inch was part of some parish, it made it almost impossible to start a new church, even when there were all sorts of populations in a community that couldn’t be reached by the older Episcopal church, but you couldn’t start a new Episcopal church because we’re the Episcopal church of this area.

But Lyle Schaller said that evangelicals like to say mainline churches declined because of their liberal theology. But, actually, he says they declined because they stop starting churches, whereas evangelicals have always started new churches.

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Frankie Schaeffer

I blame God for the shutdown

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Peter Enns, N.D. Wilson, and James: Mouths open and shut

I read some of Peter Enns blog posts earlier this week. I find Peter helpful because he tries to both keep his crunchy faith and wrestle seriously with contemporary biblical criticism. He shows guts in this.

In this post he echoes the psalmist when he sees the greatness of the universe and appreciates what type of being is capable of making this.

In this post he acknowledges something deep within himself

“This post appeared on the Creative Trust Literary Group website a few months ago, which is the agency I signed on with last year to help me in my quest to dominate the universe with my thoughts on God, Jesus, and the Bible. They suggested I dial down my goals a bit to something more doable and less stupid, but I signed on with them anyway.”

In Genesis 1 God makes the world with words. The book of James (chapter 3) suggests that words create the world and govern our bodies. Peter Enns (and most everyone) tries to dominate the universe with words.

N.D. Wilson suggests

This is a spoken world— from galaxies to inchworms, from seraphs to electrons to meter maids, every last thing was and is shaped ex nihilo. It— and we— all exist as beats and rhythms and rhymes in the cosmic and constant word art of the Creator God. To fully embrace and attempt to apply such a vision is . . . dizzying.

Wilson, N. D. (2013-07-30). Death by Living: Life Is Meant to Be Spent (Kindle Locations 51-54). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

and back to James: “who can control the tongue”

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John Suk’s Clearest Status of His Faith Statement Yet

My Strange Lord, on Post-Theism

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How Moses Becomes God to Pharaoh

I am YHWH

  • God breaks the boredom of Moses’ desert shepherding by lighting up a bush that isn’t consumed.
  • God’s “offer you can’t refuse” to Moses achieves its result, Moses and Aaron carry the message to Pharaoh.
  • The outcome of the message was disastrous if we imagine it’s goal was to relieve the suffering of Israel.
  • The “bricks without straw” order comes down the chain of command with the necessary beatings and the people’s oppression grows worse.
  • The chain of complaint (which works in reverse of the chain of command) goes back through Moses back to Yhwh. “You’re just making things worse!”
  • Yhwh ups the ante by assuming a language Empire understands.

A quick visit to the Ancient Near Eastern library reveals that God is employing stock terms in his speech.

Other ancient Near Eastern texts also record deities speaking in this way, although such statements are not common in Egyptian texts. Part of the “Sphinx Stele” from the time of Thutmose IV states: “See me, look at me, my son Thutmose. I am thy father, Harmakhis-Kepri-Re-Atum, I shall give thee my kingdom upon earth.” Assyrian texts from the 600s B.C. ascribe the following statements to the goddess Ishtar: “I am the great divine lady, I am the goddess Ishtar of Arbela, who will destroy your enemies from before your feet.… I am Ishtar of Arbela. I shall lie in wait for your enemies”; “I am Ishtar of Arbela, O Esarhaddon, king of Assyria. In the cities of Ashur, Nineveh, Calah, protracted days … unto [you] shall I grant.”

Walton, J. H. (2009). Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary (Old Testament): Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy (Vol. 1, p. 183). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan.

Similarly Yhwh’s talk about his “strong arm” also echoes Egyptian empire:

This phrase can just as easily be translated, “my strong arm.” It appears to have a direct parallel in royal rhetoric from ancient Egypt. For instance, there is an Egyptian account of the epic battle of Qadesh (c. 1275 B.C.), in which Ramesses II led his army against the Hittites near Qadesh in Syria. The Egyptians escaped with a narrow victory but proclaimed their triumph in grandiose terms. Ramesses boasts:

Then, when my troops and my chariotry saw me,
that I was like Montu, my arm strong,
Amun my father being with me instantly,
turning all the foreign lands into straw before me,
then they presented themselves one by one,
to approach the camp at evening time.…
Then my army came to praise me,
their faces [amazed/averted], at seeing what I had done.
My officers came to extol my strong arm,
and likewise my chariotry, boasting of my name.

Walton, J. H. (2009). Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary (Old Testament): Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy (Vol. 1, p. 181). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan.

Pharaoh asked “who is Yhwh” and he is about to get his answer.

Moses dutifully delivers the message designed to encourage the people, but Pharaoh’s tactic seems successful. They are too discouraged to respond. 

Uncircumcised Lips Continue reading →

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James Schaap on Physical Spirituality

The heart of the article

1. Medical-statistical evidence that prayer improves people’s health and recovery.

2. Christians suffer along with everyone else.

What can you surmise from both ideas?

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Skye Jethani cell phone piece

“Smokescreen” http://feedly.com/k/19jk2ZQ

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Greg Boyd interview

“Faith, Doubt and the Idol of Certainty: An Interview with Greg Boyd” http://feedly.com/k/1dm0shC

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How the pope described himself

“I Am a Sinner” http://feedly.com/k/158iELC

The original interview

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Post antibiotic age

“CDC Threat Report: ‘We Will Soon Be in a Post-Antibiotic Era’ – Wired Science” http://feedly.com/k/17EpVAQ

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