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Rachel, Brett, Johnny and others on Millenials
RHE: The church must change or die
Brett: Millenials can’t see beyond themselves and the church should be careful
Jonathan: They’re both right and wrong, what we need is commitment to action he says. A quote after the break.
And another millennial doesn’t feel his perspective adequately voiced by RHE. Patheos. I like this one best so far. “Have you tried praying for the church?”
Also this guy makes the point that RHE might as well say the UMC is fits the bill but they’re hardly busting at the seams.
Bethany Keeley-Jonker on ThinkChristian.
RHE’s follow up posting “Something unexpected happened on the way to the CNN blog” and an interesting comment left by “Sandy”
John Hawthorne’s Millenial Canaries, Millennials tip us off to larger trends.
The Naked Pastor’s take: The church is facing death not just because it is irrelevant but unnecessary.
David French says that millennials are narcissists.
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Six Types of Atheists
- Intellectual atheist/agnostic
- Activist
- Seeker-agnostic
- Anti-theist
- Non-theist
- Ritual Atheist
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Why are millenials leaving the church? Try Atheism says the “Friendly Atheist”
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Rachel Held Evans on Why Millennials Are Leaving The Church
CNN Religion Blog It’s a pretty good summary of the perspective of her corner of the emergent position. Her critique of evangelicalism is spot on. The piece falls apart when she takes the bait and speaks for “millennials” which is more than a bit risky and presumptuous.
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Reza Aslan and his book Zealot
Reza Aslan authored a new historical questish book of Jesus entitled “Zealot”. He did an interview with John Oliver on the Daily Show.
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Being Not Sure About the Bible
How Being Not Sure Impacts Preaching
I continue to be fascinated by John Suk’s journey. For me the benefit of John’s exodus is the opportunity he creates to compare some of his thought to my own. Since we are products of the same tradition (although I’m sure his growing up in Canada was quite different from me in Paterson) it’s fun to watch the moves he makes.
He recently did a sermon on couples cohabitating rather than marrying. One of the lines that stuck out to me was “So while I’d never say that living together is wrong—I’d add that making promises is beautiful, and great strategy for nurturing attachment.”
What’s interesting about the line for me is how it obviously and self-consciously departs from what you would expect from a typical evangelical sermon which would likely say “living together is wrong because God in the Bible teaches us that this arrangement should be reserved for those who formally marry before God and the state. This is God’s revealed standard for us and we know it because he told it to us in his Word, the Bible.”
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Why the Christian Left Struggles As A Political Movement
Reason 1: Religion isn’t a priority: Only 11% of Christian progressives say that religion is the most important thing in their lives.
Reason 2: Religion is private, not public:
Reason 3: Discipline in meeting together: Unlike conservative religious people who attend church very frequently, and thus have an opportunity to create strong social bonds and organizations, progressives don’t attend frequently and thus don’t organize.
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Ganesha, Descartes, The Self and the Secular Age

The Yoga Instructor Said
At the beginning of her class the yoga instructor gave a mini-meditation about the Hindu diety Ganesha. She said that she knew Ganesha was the destroyer of evils and obstacles but she recently learned that Ganesha was also the placer of obstacles to give us challenges to overcome. This caught my attention for at least two reasons.
First, it is not very different from what I’ve been working through in my Joseph series, not about Ganesha but about Yhwh in the book of Genesis. I could easily imagine someone listening to my sermons and hearing this aphorism to say “see, you are both saying the same thing!”
Second, the manner, the tone, the language that the Yoga teacher used very much reminded me of some preachers or worship leaders that off the cuff a bit of spiritual teaching on the informal way to the grouping of praise songs.
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