Comments about the Holy Spirit and John Calvin

Again, comments from a blog conversation.

I think as Trace noted we’ve probably got a lot of agreement here but even perceived disagreement can produce some interesting exploration if seasoned with both honesty and generosity. 🙂

1. Part of what we’re rubbing against here is the difference between Biblical theology and systematic theology. An attempt to undertake a theology of the Holy Spirit (HS) through the OT is a difficult task indeed and simply applying NT expectations to the OT usually yields some strange results. What do we make of King Saul’s experience with the “spirit of the LORD” in 1 Sam 10:6-12? What about the elders of Israel prophesying and the two who did so in the camp? Fitting passages like these in a systematic theology derived mostly from the NT has given theologians and expositors fits. 🙂

2. I think there are problems with some of the common language and assumptions about the HS in the NT as well. It is common in American evangelical circles to talk about the HS as a “possession”, as the HS in me… I think this is sometimes an unfortunate reduction, because I think a more consistent appropriation of Paul’s theology is that we are in Christ and therefore we are in the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Christ) rather than the other way around. The HS Is not primarily a power we wield, we are the property of the HS and we are wielded by it, albeit and unfortunately too often reluctantly, like a mule who is less than accommodating.

3. One of the governing teachings that Jesus gives us about the Holy Spirit, which is also very much in line with what we know about the entire Godhead, is that the Holy Spirit blows where it wants and wills. We don’t employ it, it employs us. The Holy Spirit doesn’t explain itself.

4. Another aspect that I find too often neglected in American evangelical language about the Spirit is the older observation of the work of the Holy Spirit both in the world in general (called “common grace” in my Reformed tradition) and in people’s lives BEFORE they make an overt profession of faith in Christ. Classical Christian theology does not endorse a timeline that “I was out there and stumbled upon information about Jesus, I liked what I heard and decided to follow.” Theology has long held that we can’t choose to follow Jesus without the HS working in our hearts to prepare us. This is called quickening or regeneration. This belief of traditional Christian theology recognizes that the Holy Spirit’s work in our lives comes way before our embrace of it. Too often I hear Christian drawing a very hard line between what professing Christians are doing BECAUSE they have the HS without recognizing that in fact the Holy Spirit works on people who are not Christians or who are perhaps not yet Christians or are perhaps that strange group that are almost Christians or perhaps even Christians and they themselves don’t know it or don’t know it yet. I can’t prove that such a group exists, but I suspect it does. Life is strange that way and this God that we serve reaps where he does not sow”, or does he. 🙂

5. Your points are well taken in terms of the powerful transformation of the Apostles. In Acts it is very clear that Pentecost is the line of demarcation between hapless, hopeless stumblers behind Jesus and these remarkable men and women who in a couple of hundred years changed “the world”.

6. And this brings me to your point about the transformative power of “the word”. Biologos.org is reposting some shorter versions of a lot of what NT Wright is doing in his longer book that Rachel is going through.

Again, I think we have a language problem in the evangelical world that is probably a legacy of the modernist/fundamentalist feud that has transformed the American church sometimes in unfortunate ways. The word is transformative because of how the Holy Spirit uses it. The Bible is not a member of the Trinity. Evangelicals keep using it like a flag, but the subtext that gets communicated is that the Bible is somehow divine or magical. It is neither. It is human words inspired by the Holy Spirit to achieve the ends that the Lord intends.

If you read some John Calvin you might want to read about how he pairs the Holy Spirit with the Bible. The Holy Spirit uses the Bible. Unless the Holy Spirit is using the Bible it does nothing. There is no power in the Bible. It has power to the degree that it is used by the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is transformative and the Bible is an agent in transformation as used by the Spirit.

7. With respect to leaders today, you’re probably looking at leaders in affluent, secure North America. Leaders are often revealed in moments of desperation and danger. Find those places and you’ll find inspirational leaders. There are heroes in the world today, most of those stories we won’t know until the assembly of Christ is complete and we have time and capability to appreciate them. Also always know that all leaders have their flaws, sometimes dramatically so. Most who are seen as leaders today will be forgotten in a generation. We are a short lived, short remembered creature in this age.

8. With respect to Calvin, it is difficult (without reading history) to appreciate how broad and influential Calvin was to the development of the Protestant world. Calvin was a second generation reformer whose gifts were to synthesis, process, and systematize what the maelstrom of the first generation of reformers were spinning out in the midst of their melees. Calvin was a refugee (a Frenchman in Switzerland), a pastor (his preaching load and work load was crushing), a scholar (he was incredibly productive), a sickly, often miserable man (had could be generous, but also surly, short tempered and unpleasant) and one of the better Biblical exegetes of his generation (which Wright and others often note). There are biographies that are too hagiographic. I like Herman Selderhuis’ recent biography. I think its fair and even handed on this complex man.

It’s important to recognize that part of why Calvin is so influential is because of his book “The Institutes of the Christian Religion” that was a hugely popular book in Europe as the Reformation continued to impact the cultural conversation.

Calvinism tended to flourish in those spaces in Europe (Switzerland, the Netherlands) where the refugees of other power centers (France, Spain, Germany) had to flee from. Calvin gets a bad rap via Servitus but the truth was that people who couldn’t fit into the dominating influences of the RC and Lutheran churches tended to clump around these refugee centers that practiced greater tolerance. The two main branches that have carried on the tradition came from England (Presbyterian churches) and the Netherlands (Reformed churches, my tradition).

The noisiest Calvinists in America today tend to be “Reformed Baptists” that are an American hybrid of sorts between Calvinism and some American baptist fundamentalisms. Neal Plantinga, my systematics professor when I was in seminary said of Arminianism “Yes it is a heresy, but it’s our heresy”. Arminians too are mostly Calvinists too. Calvin and his teachings impacted Protestantism far beyond what the label reflects today which is part of the reason why labeling a Calvinist is a tricky thing.

9. Part of why I may sound inconsistent with respect to faith is probably because of my Calvinism. Calvin was notoriously inconsistent too, as was Augustine who Calvin really follows. Calvin held both a strong vision of election, that God is the author of our salvation and apart from the work of the Holy Spirit all of God’s benefits for us are not intelligible. If you look also at how Calvin taught and lived he also believed that we are responsible for what we do and must respond to God’s gifts to us. Are we responsible? Yes. Is God the primary agent? Yes. Do these two things seem incompatible? Yes. Why is Calvin so inconsistent in this? Because he’s reading the Bible and the Bible says the same thing. Jesus talks election all the time, and quickly cries out “let those who have ears hear…” Paul does the same thing, and they both come by it honestly from the Old Testament. Its in that tradition that I stand. I have to bear witness to the limits of our agency conditioned by history, time and space, and also the necessity of decision. If I short change either side problems happen, so I’ll stick with my inconsistency. pvk

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Links and Notes April 17 2012

From James KA Smith’s blog on “What kind of love is this?” 

In an age where love is often reduced to uncritical affirmation and unprincipled embrace, we might be stopped short by a love like this–a love that is strangely willing to grieve and sadden and dismay the beloved, but is not for that reason any less loving. Indeed, it is more so, and shows up “affirmation” as a parody of agape.

Will Saletan responds to Ross Douthat’s new book Bad Religion. Entry 1. , and response. and so on. This from Entry 4. 

The answer is fuzzy in part because Bad Religion is a book about culture and theology, not domestic policy (that was the subject of my last book!), and in part because I wanted to stress the fact that I don’t think there is anything like a single Christian politics. There are lines Christians can’t cross and causes they can’t support, but on most of the questions that divide us in the West today—where to set tax rates and spending levels and so forth—just saying “What would Jesus do?” doesn’t get you very far. Given that Jesus’ only explicitly political admonition was “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and unto God what is God’s,” a Christian libertarian, a Christian socialist, and (for that matter) a Christian monarchist can all make a plausible claim to be living out the gospel.

Archaeology of the Samaritans and the Temple at Mt. Gerizim.

Awesome Video done of the Easter Service from Christ Church Davis. http://vimeo.com/40340863 

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The Genesis Flood and the Gospel Narrative

My take on the Genesis flood is a bit different. A very common, perhaps the MOST common world saving strategy is “reward and rescue the good people, marginalize or eliminate the bad people.” This strategy in fact I believe is read onto the Bible. That is exactly what many people want God to do and the filter that many people read the Bible as asserting. We like reading the Bible this way because we like to locate ourselves with the righteous, deserving the good things we get, and we like to locate our enemies with the unrighteous, deserving the punishment they get.

What do we have in the Genesis flood? God looks and sees the mess humanity has made of his good creation and he wishes he had never made us. Then he has the idea, I’ll save just the very best in the world (and his family, good parents have good kids, good breeding, blah blah blah) and then I’ll remake the world by culling the bad and rewarding the good! It’s a Hebrew version of Karma.

How does that experiment work? God kills all but one family, saves the best animals, and even within this family after their rescue things go poorly (the wine, the laughter, etc.) and things go downhill right away.

Humanity cannot be rescued by dividing us into good people and bad people. We must be changed. Proof? The Genesis flood account. The flood account is a do-over, and the results are the same.

Then God takes a different approach and begins to pursue Abraham, and that’s where the drama really gets going. Then God really starts to get busy, enter into relationship, costly relationship, and it is in the context of this relationship that we get to see the truth about ourselves (we’re natural born sinners, fallen royalty of Eden) and also the truth about God, he’s a determined lover who like Hosea enters into a bad marriage in order to rescue his beloved.

The “good people”/”bad people” or deserving/undeserving categories don’t work. We need dramatic rescue and it will take nothing short of this God laying down his own life to get what he wants, us. pvk

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Does Emotional Certainty Correlate with the Presence of the Holy Spirit?

This is a response to a blog post in which a commenter asserted that once the Holy Spirit takes up residence in a person that they no longer experience doubt or mental uncertainty. They sighted Peter and Paul in the New Testament as examples. I disagree and below is why.

1. Part of the struggle with conversations about “doubt” is that it has a lexical range. You seem to be addressing certainty and doubt as emotional experiences. This aspect isn’t disconnected from faith “faith is being certain of what we do not see Heb. 11 and from my own tradition in the Heidelberg Catechism “faith is a deep-rooted assurance”.

Emotions are involuntary experiences that arise from our construal or perception of our circumstance. In this way faith very much impacts emotion and is an enormous aid in our emotional challenges.

2. Your assertion is that once the Holy Spirit comes in we no longer have the emotional experience of doubt. You base your claim I assume on personal experience and Biblical evidence.

I don’t know you so I can’t speak to your personal experience, but I find doubt to be common among people who profess to be Christians, people who in my estimation show evidence of faith in their lives, and who show evidence of the fruit of the Spirit in their lives.

Apart from my personal anecdotes I think we can find many others in the history of the church including CS Lewis in A Grief Observed and Nicholas Woltersdorff in Lament for a Son and many, many other accounts of notable Christians who have been looked upon for leadership, guidance, etc. testifying to experiences of doubt even long after having experienced and to all evidence lead exceptional Christian lives.

You might say that these are not sufficient evidence and that we need to appeal to Scripture.

a. I don’t think the corpus of the New Testament is sufficient to say that the Apostle Paul after Damascus never harbored emotional doubt or emotional uncertainty. Perhaps not. We have no testimony that I can think of that he did, but I will think longer.

b. I think in the case of Peter you are mistaken. Peter in the incident when he failed to eat with Gentile Christians shrank back out of fear of criticism and Paul reprimanded him for denying the Gospel. We might also note Peter’s uncertainty with respect to dealing with the issues that the new mission to the Gentiles involved. Should he eat with them? How did he respond to the vision on the roof in Joppa? I think we see evidence in Peter’s life, even given the tiny corpus of information about him after Acts 9 where he almost falls off the map that I don’t think we can easily say that once the Holy Spirit is present emotional uncertainty is banished.

c. Probably the best example of doubt we actually find in Jesus in Gethsemane and on the cross. Here his emotional world is laid open and we have a window into his heart. I don’t think that we can define faith as not feeling fear, doubt or uncertainty, but rather what do we do when we are confronted with these things. If Jesus was tempted by all that we are, and you will not deny Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit, I think we cannot say that temptations and trials of fear and doubt and uncertainty are somehow banished after we pass a historical boundary marker in real time.

d. You also seem to want to draw a hard and fast line between the Old Testament saints and the NT ones in terms of experience. I’d not go there partly because of the way the NT (again, Hebrews 11) talks about the OT saints. Of those saints, great ones wrestled with doubt and uncertainty. Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Samuel, David, Job.

3. A dynamic exchange between faith and doubt I would argue in fact builds faith in real time. That seems to be the majority way in my experience that faith is built rather than the Holy Spirit just poofing it into us. If Yhwh is the God of creation, providence and history, I believe he uses history to build his saints and his church. The Apostle Paul is a terrific example of this. I think he needed to be a Pharisee and a Christian murderer BEFORE he could be the founding theologian of the Christian church. My favorite treatment of this is Tim Keller’s introduction to “The Reason for God”. “A faith without some doubts is like a human body without any antibodies in it.” p. XVI.

4. I find the position that presumes that an experience of doubt is a denial of the presence of the Holy Spirit to be discouraging and potentially devastating for Christian faith and life.

a. It’s discouraging because it may lead one to have an existential crisis based on something as illusory and transitory as an emotional reaction. Despite massive attempts to keep up appearances common emotional lives can be tumultuous. Crises large and small regularly throw people into a tizzy. I think it is pastorally unwise to suggest that these fits of emotion should be seen as evidence of the absence of the Holy Spirit. This kind of thinking raises experiential validation to such a high level that nearly all will fail, especially those who struggle.

The same point in the opposite way goes to certainty. I know a lot of people who emotionally are simply wired for certainty, including the deranged. Many of these people aren’t believers at all.

I think equating validation for the presence of the Holy Spirit with experiential certainty is dangerous pastoral theology.

b. Having said this I do believe in time, as faith grows and strengthens, emotional equilibrium, perseverance, endurance, combined with emotional availability, vulnerability, and suppleness are marks of true faith and the presence of the Holy Spirit.

In Jesus we see incongruous excellencies. What we find in him are excellencies that we don’t often find “in the wild” as it were. We expect people who are emotionally certain almost all the time to also be dogmatic, hard, non-transparent, invulnerable, etc. This is evidence of emotional brittleness, not strength. In Jesus we find not only a high capacity for moral perfection, but also enormous compassion for the weak, the emotionally wounded, and availability to those who are on the edge. Remember, the smoldering wick he will not snuff out, and the bruised reed he will not break.

5. I think experiences of emotional uncertainty are normal, and in fact may be in many cases marks of a healthy, growing self under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

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Links and Notes for April 16 2012

Rachel Held Evans on Sundays often has a lot of good links and quotes from various blogs. It’s nice to have someone else do the sifting for you. Here are a few takes from this week.

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A few things to consider about contemporary complaints about the Old Testament

This from a comment I made in a blog discussion. It’s not a full treatment, just a few things to think about.

I think your concern is VERY common one. I hear it articulated honestly and sincerely.

1. As Christians the OT is modulated by Jesus as the final Word of God, the word becoming flesh. The reason Christians affirm the OT is because Jesus did so, but note how Jesus himself feels free to change it. Read the sermon on the mount and see how Jesus reinterprets Moses. How many times does Jesus seem to really upend some of the stuff in the OT, the woman caught in adultery. Closely read how NT authors interpret OT authors. All of this is happening while Jesus continues to also strongly affirm the OT. This should lead us to believe that there is more going on than the simplistic moralistic judgments we like to label things with. Peter Enns is good with some of this stuff in showing that the internal conversation of Scripture is far more nuanced than the simplistic promotional language the church too often broadcasts. You don’t have to lose authority to recognize the complexity of the issues.

2. I also hear concern that the OT will sanction all sorts of evil. Have people used the OT to sanction evil? Absolutely. Then again people do evil without any sanction at all or make up reasons to sanction evil with or without the Bible. We do evil. We also like to maintain our own sense of righteousness and when we do them both at once we’ll concoct nearly anything. Blaming the OT for the evil we do can be seen in some deep sense as yet another example of our own self-righteousness (and see where self-righteousness can take you).

3. Don’t read the OT as a flat document. Kids often view their parents this way. Kids love to point out inconsistencies in their parent’s behavior, and sometimes the kids are right, but sometimes the kids can’t understand a broad and complex situation like the parents can. Parents of multiple children soon learn that different kids need different rules. Does this break the fairness rule? Yes. Sometimes the fairness rule needs to be broken because of the rule of love.

4. The OT itself is not blind to its own issues. This library (it is more a library than a book really) has both the genocide of the Canaanites and the sparing of the Ninevites and attributes both to the same God. My favorite line in the book of Jonah is “and God repented of the evil he said he would do to them…” This of course makes you scratch your head if your doing systematic theology, but it’s right there in your KJV Jonah 3:10 because it’s there in the Hebrew. If you were patching together a propaganda piece for your big box evangelical church you’d want to fix this stuff, but there it is and there it will remain because the church at least on some level tries to hold itself accountable to something outside its own agenda. None of it is new.

The OT psalm writers and prophets had their way of dealing with these issues, they complained to God which demonstrated honesty and trust. We should do likewise.

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The Golden Rule vs. The Rule of Love

The golden rule is sometimes cited as a basis for ethics and a common place by which different religious traditions can find commonality.

The golden rule is a good rule, not original to Jesus. It can be found in various forms in a number of religious traditions. It does have limitations though, which is why I think it is not as broad in scope as the rule of love.

The golden rule is based on a person’s capacity to know their own good and to judge what means will acheive shalomic ends. For example, parents don’t practice the golden rule with their children. If they did the children would be miserable and short lived. You do to them what you would not have them do to you. This is just one example.

What this shows is not that the rule is invalid, but that it is contingent upon conditions. The broader rule, that you in fact practice with your children is the rule of love. You give them, and do for them, and do to them what love requires, for their best interest even at the expense of your own. You don’t and can’t do it perfectly, but you assume for yourself a higher level of awareness than they are capable of and you in fact regularly do for them and to them what you would not have them do to you.

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Notes and links for April 15 2012

Another article on co-habitation and its effects on marital happiness and longevity.

Caine’s Arcade, about a cardboard arcade built in his father’s auto part’s store.

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Is Hell Disproportional Punishment?

Trying to comprehend what we may not fully be able to comprehend

These were comments I posted on Facebook in a conversation following my response to the “And What If I’m Wrong” posting.

Before I cut and paste my comments let me say that approaching the question of the relfected-self, or our addiction to self is one avenue into understanding what is a reality that is only partly accessible to our ability to know. As with many things that we believe exist out there, our capacity to fully capture them by our understanding is limited and so all of these frames of references are attempts to appropriate something in a way that we can understand.

The Problem: Is Eternal Punishment a just reward for temporal rebellion?

Everlasting, not Eternal

The question of the everlastingness of hell. Eternity is actually the wrong word because eternity has no beginning, and in a Christian worldview only God, joy, goodness, blessedness, etc. are eternal. Eternal can also be used as a term of quality more than temporality. In our English translations “life of the ages” in the gospel of John keeps getting translated “eternal life”. In that rendering it’s more a description of a quality of life rather than temporality. I’d rather render it “life of the age to come” because that is the frame that most of the NT renders with respect to consummation. A new regime, the end of the age of decay.

If People Are Everlasting, What is a Creator to do with them?

If you imagine (contra materialism) that human beings are actually on some level everlasting, you entertain the difficult proposition of what to do with them without violating their rights that the creator gave them and clearly intended them to have. Because they are his gifts, and his goods he intended to give, they are also his to preserve. If one of the rights he created us to have was to possess the possibility to oppose the creator, some accommodation must be created for those who wish to live in a perpetual state of rebellion.

Annihilation is an option grabbed by some religious traditions but at one level it forces the creator to cross Himself on his desire.

If he created us to be everlasting, and if he created us with the potentiality to rebel, it seems reasonable to assume that the creator also made accommodation for rebels and holdouts who don’t wish his presence, his attention, or his love.

Our Problem of Evaluating God’s Justice

The justice of God is also an interesting topic. What I want to point out in all of this is that when we evaluate God’s justice, we already have a problem. If we are to imagine that the creator of the world is all just, all powerful, all good, all knowing, etc. then the evaluative powers of such a being would obviously far outstrip our own capacity to evaluate. Philosophically speaking, evaluating God or judging God makes zero sense because by definition such a being has a far greater capacity for moral evaluation and righting wrongs than we can possibly imagine.

How this changes the discussion is that it refines the question to what I think you and others are asking. Does the Bible faithfully reveal such a god if one exists? That then, however, places us with different questions, ones we’re not unfamiliar with given our access to information of human society and history. If we gain an adequate appreciation for the degree to which our judgments are conditioned and even sometimes controlled by our cultural context and historical setting can we as human beings even hope to see justice and fairness and be able to render judgments trans-culturally. Ideally our experience of cosmopolitan pluralism should make us more humble, not more judgmental.

There are many competing systems that attempt to come to terms with what is justice and what we owe each other. How do you choose? That’s the process we’re in now, isn’t it? Part of what this guy (I should find his name) wants to say is that “I should be given credit for at least being honest given the limitations of one’s epistemological bubble.” and I can understand that. A just god certainly gets that too. You can find that idea in Acts 17, 19, the book of Jonah, etc. However, there is an real world out there that also expects correlation with reality. To say to your heart surgeon “I followed diet book X because it said it would help my heart” but diet book X was wrong, you may get points for earnestness, but you still may have a bad heart.

The Reduction of Common American Evangelicalism

Part of the reason I refocused the video away from the assumption that the dominant concern of Christianity is designation of after life accommodation is because that assumption usually yields in our cultural situation towards a narrative of performance evaluation. It isn’t too hard to read the Bible to see that this particular concern while valid is likely not the major concern of the Biblical narrative. Do you find any concern for post-life accommodations in the OT? How much is there really in the New? It is a subject that gets addressed within its cultural framework but nothing to the degree that American evangelicalism has focused upon.

A Better Central Narrative of the Bible

A better central narrative of the Bible is whether the creation (including humanity) will for ever be bound by decay and loss. Whether the creation was made for frustration or made for joy? The Bible says we were made for joy and it tells us how joy is found and this joy involves all of the natural order.

What are the options?

1. People are just highly evolved carbon mammals doing stuff in a universe with a self-life, in which case none of this talk (nor anything else) really matters beyond pleasant or meaningful experience in the moment.
2. People are everlasting AND God respects their wishes, in which case God reserves a space for those who don’t wish to be near what he calls glory as it is enjoyed the Lord and his friends see Hell and Parties 
3. God violates the rights of his creatures and poofs them away so as not to have them endure everlastingness without Him (annihilationism)

For more on this read the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Notice how the rich man, despite his time in hades, has not changed a bit. Also notice how Abraham has mercy for the rich man, but the rich man simply can’t understand.

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The Reflected-Self, the Ego, and Evil

The Widely Recognized Problem of the Ego

As I continue to work through the idea of the reflected-self and how it becomes self-obsession, selfishness, self-righteousness, how it makes us unable to love or to engage the material world in a healthy way it’s important to ask how it relates to the ego. In some ways the reflected-self can be seen as nearly synonymous with the concept of the ego. As I continue to work the concept I’ll have to continue to process the inter-relation of the two concepts.

The term “ego” of course came from Freud by has been used in religious contexts to describe sources of evil in our lives. You can find other religious traditions grappling with the ego, especially those stemming from the root of Hinduism and Buddhism. The ego is a source of misery, conflict, hatred, fighting, violence and warfare and human community, not just Christian community, has been grappling with how to approach the ego and often simply get it under control.

My View of Other Religions

As a Christian I believe that the triune creator of the universe reveals himself in two ways, through general and special revelation. Because general revelation is available to all, and because the imago dei (image of God) is universal to all human beings, all human beings have the potential to know something of their author and his creation. This is not a new idea, the Apostle Paul lays it out in Romans 1. Christians have long debated how this gets played out, but the principle is commonly embraced by Christians. In my tradition it comes together in the concept of “common grace”, that God blesses the whole world with his own riches.

It seems reasonable that because religious traditions are human traditions that their founders and participants use general revelation (as we all do) in developing their teachings. This idea is not isolated to religion. All people use general revelation to build the corpus of human knowledge and so this body of information is available to all and subject to evaluation by all.

Should Christians learn from other religions? Yes. Just like Christians should learn from all other observers of general revelation.

What Christians bring to the conversation is not only what they learn from general revelation but also what they learn from special revelation. So Christians will sift through the contributions of other religions and evaluate them (as all people evaluate all contributions by others) according to their own traditions and practices.

The Ego is a Common Problem

Many religious traditions deal with the ego in their tradition in some way, shape or form.

  • In Islam submission to the will of Allah is a foundational principle.
  • Jesus says to deny your self, take up your cross and follow him. Mortification, dying to self is a centerpiece of the practice and experience of Christian piety.
  • The recognition of the problem of attachment or desire, which are deeply connected with ego and the will is one articulation of Buddhism’s second noble truth.

I can’t say that will and ego again are synonymous, but they clearly are connected.

The ego fills us with self-importance. It propels us to fight for ourselves or for the things we want. It lead us to bind ourselves to things in the world and to try to construct our identities upon them. It is important for self-preservation and this instinct for self-preservation brings us to subjugate others around us, to use them rather than to love them.

In many ways the ego is an unexamined reflected self let loose upon the world.

Each religious traditions will grapple with the ego, and the reflected self in practical ways. There will be commonality in how they address the ego and the reflected self. Exploring those ways will be important in terms of elucidating what is distinct in those religious traditions.

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