Notes from Steve Timmermans Interview

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Dr. Steve Timmermans interviewed by CRC Synod for the position of Executive Director

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Joel Boot Address Synod 2014, My Notes

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  • She has my love, she is my granddaughter, she’s only 7 years old. Born susceptible to infections. Granddaughter Addison. Paid tribute to her when he stepped up to do the Interim ED job.
  • Joel had been her pastor, but she has been his pastor too.
  • Deut 33:27 first text when he took his last church in Ridgewood 1992, final sermon too. Gave bookmarks to the church, Addison too.
  • 250k of us, all our hurt, brokenness, around us, that afflicts humanity.
  • As I wrote this speech I dealt with three instances of brokenness.
  • What will become of Ukraine? Sudan? Central African Republic? etc.?
  • When will the shooting stop?
  • What of those whose orientations are debated?
  • What of those who believe the life of creation is being shortened, and those who believe it isn’t.
  • the nature of humanity makes it difficult to believe that we are still in God’s hand.
  • We do well to put our hands in His hands and there we must work together. While we continue working, however, the results are up to him.
  • We have been working towards more inclusion.
  • The CRC employed 20% people of color and 20% women in leadership positions.
  • We’re working to do this across the board and not just at the upper levels. For the first time we didn’t need to have ethnic advisors. With Nehemiah we pray “now, strengthen our hands”
  • Progress not success at binational inclusion.
  • Binational is a reality worth understanding and a goal worth pursuing, not just to the two nations but as a matter of witness that there is a loving God. Grace has a very strong grip.
  • JB paraphrases Paul’s speech at Athens.
  • “I have attempted to present this report acronym free”, even us within the system don’t understand all the acronyms that we use.
  • We must strive to be understood, even by each other.
  • While we live on a small planet, it is a big world.
  • Visited 12 cities and made 23 presentations with CRC and RCA to talk about our collaborative work together.
  • There are many ecumenical ventures.
  • the son of man still holds the 7 stars in his hand and walks among the 7 lampstands
  • The CRCNA has added a new word to its vocabulary: experiment. SPACT calls them “new behaviors”. We are truly leaning into the future, not waiting for it to come. We are depending on God to come, not just waiting to see where he shows up next.
  • Fundamentally Reframed Ministry Journey: 13 ministry challenges
  • The new behaviors are not gimmicks, they are honest efforts to present the good news to the 21st century.
  • While we looked, God lead. The wait was worth it and we are better for it.
  • Please receive Steve and Darren as gifts from God and pray for them.
  • On the collaborative tour I heard that the CRC is for global warming. None of us are for global warming, but all of us are to be good stewards. We should stop arguing about the extent of the former and get busy to address the latter.
  • Mentions of Israel and Palestine
  • Immigration, not how to label to them, but how to minister to them. The initial response to be a broken heart and not an argument about a broken law.
  • A few words about money and membership
  • We are funded by ministry shares. These are not taxes, they are shares. They are not primarily for administration, they are for ministry. They are the envy of the fund raising world. It costs less than 1% to process the funds. We are still 15 million dollars short. We have endured little suffering and engaged in less true sacrifice. Are we telling the God from whom all things flow that we cannot endure ministry shares.
  • Members: Those who describe those who depart as a hemorrhage. But suppose that instead of just wishing to stop the flow, we consider the news that we know too good not to share and to do.
  • When a church decided to consider the people beyond its walls, an elder said “so this is what the church has come to…” JB says “finally!”
  • I have come so far in the last three years that it is difficult to let things go.
  • Oswalt Chambers when Jesus touches John on Patmos
  • God can do nothing for me, until I get to the limit of the possible.
  • Underneath are the everlasting arms.

I couldn’t keep up with all of his points and these notes don’t do it justice. You can probably watch it on the Synod webpage. It was a lovely, heart-felt farewell.

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Upsides and Downsides on the increase of above ministry share support required of CRWM Missionaries

Upsides and downsides on more reliance on above ministry-share support

Upsides

  • Better connection to local church partners
  • More energetic support from local church partners
  • Able to expand mission fields (see report)
  • Better connection between North American church and world church. (This can become a downside in some situations too if the relationship is not healthy or managed well.)

Downsides

  • Ministry share paying congregations imagine (incorrectly) that their ministry shares will fall and are no longer needed.
  • Individuals from large congregations and wealthy communities can serve as missionaries while those from smaller churches and poorer communities will struggle. Juan from Florida notes the student debt angle of this.
  • CRWM will increasingly lose leverage over CRWM missionaries because they are not as dependent on them for support and services. Historically this relational triangle can produce nasty situations that enflames conflicts between agency and missionary.

Observation

  • This is another example of how the CRC is increasingly like the broader North American church.
  • The Internet and social media play a part in this. The world is smaller. Nets and jets baby.
  • Large, wealthy churches increasingly do what denominations used to provide for smaller churches.
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Please List For Me the “deep differences of conviction” that Compel the CRC and RCA to not Pursue Merger?

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The CRC-RCA Joint Resolution

Tonight in a joint session of Synod the CRCNA and the RCA passed this resolution.

Therefore, as the General Synod of the Reformed Church in America and the Synod of the Christian Reformed Church in North America, we  declare that the principle that guides us, and the intention that motivates us, is to “act together in all matters except those in which deep differences of conviction compel  [us] to act separately”; and, further, We jointly instruct the Board of Trustees of the Christian  Reformed Church and the General Synod Council of the Reformed Church in  America, in looking to the future relationship between our two  denominations, to be guided by this principle.

I think to the shock of the officers a joint CRC-RCA pair attempted to amend the statement.

 

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Failed Amendment

The statement in quotes was “The Lund Principle“.

The objection to the quote was that it was feared to give “a way out” of serious collaboration.

This quotation implies the opposite.

The question formulated at Lund inverts the typical denominational point of view.  It subtly shifts the burden from a council of churches back to its member denominations to judge for themselves the sufficiency of their “eagerness” to “act together in all matters.”  The Lund Principle presses on a council of churches and its denominational membership the contemplation of an entirely different perspective on the interrelationship between them because it calls them to confront the key question of how well they are living out the ecumenical vision of not only being together, but acting together.  Does their being together enable them to be acting together?

Still, the difficulty with the Lund Principle lies not so much in the discipline it seeks to impose on both the member denominations and the council of churches to which they belong as it does with the way those party to any serious conversation about it are likely to respond, this is, to recoil instinctually in institutional horror from the uncompromising implications of it.  A council of churches would be remiss in its duty if it failed occasionally to remind its member denominations of the Lund Principle, the radical demands it makes on them and the practical application it has for them.  If the ecumenical movement can be said to have a conscience, surely the Lund Principle is it.

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Want to address violence against women? How Marriage Changes the Percentages

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Secular Colleges Restrict Student Clubs

NYtimes

At Cal State, the nation’s largest university system with nearly 450,000 students on 23 campuses, the chancellor is preparing this summer to withdraw official recognition from evangelical groups that are refusing to pledge not to discriminate on the basis of religion in the selection of their leaders. And at Vanderbilt, more than a dozen groups, most of them evangelical but one of them Catholic, have already lost their official standing over the same issue; one Christian group balked after a university official asked the students to cut the words “personal commitment to Jesus Christ” from their list of qualifications for leadership.

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Worst Verses in the Bible

Salon

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Intelligent Design Going Out of Style

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Overture 18 on Adam and Eve, To Study or Not to Study is really NOT the Question

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Overture 18 from Classis Wisconsin

While the Banner gets all the sizzle the massive overture from Classis Wisconsin deserves the prize for most ambitious. The overture lays out the teachings not only of the Walhout who wrote  one of the scorned Banner articles but also the two Calvin profs who published papers regarding questions of historicity and Genesis. Their published words were laid out in contrast pertinent articles of the confessions.

First let me say that part of me LOVES challenges like this. It is a stand-up, ambitious, “let’s live what we say we believe” type of overture that asks the CRC to put up or shut up.  We’re subscribed to these historical words and we are facing these contemporary challenges, let’s put the champions in the ring and see who prevails! Life is too short and precious to always equivocate!

Another part of me just says, “oh no”. A 5 years study committee will spend tens of thousands of dollars in expenses and triple that in uncompensated salary levies for the institutions that these “brightest and best” are already working for. At the end of 5 years they will bring forth a document the size of a book that some will read carefully and fewer will be swayed by it only to have the same theological factions be for or against it based on their commitments to these matters formed prior to Synod 2020 and mostly shaped by sociological factors in their own communities of confidence. Is it worth it?

Those same political forces will be arrayed at this Synod. Some will say “we don’t want to study this because the committee may ask for change” The same fear that motivated last year’s debate on a homosexuality study committee. Another group will think “we need this so that we can stop picking on Calvin profs and these persecuted fellows can be vindicated…” Another group will say “we’ll go through all of this effort and it won’t change a thing. Confessions work best when we pledge allegiance to them and like Victorian children are seen but not heard. The church should focus its energy on evangelism, church growth, pastoral care, and all of the things that make a real difference. These squabbles we will always have with us. They only divide us. We need to make disciples of Jesus…”

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Let not many of you become bloggers James Bratt

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